Very interesting argument between the two different versions of Bitcoin.
As an engineer, I am more fascinated with lightning and I think it has a very good chance to become as big of an invention as bitcoin itself. But I have to agree with mr. Ver on a lot of topics too. One has to wonder what would have happened if SegWit2x was adopted, and fees would have stayed low all along. Would we have seen the growth of Bitcoin increase along with BTC prices?